Arya Samaj

Shyena · Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:24 pm Post subject:

Namaste Shishya,
Of course - my point is not much different from yours. Its just that we're two sides of the same coin - you say, we needn't follow these scriptures.. I say, these scriptures are vedic. Its just that, the years which formed the basis of my present personality [6th, 7th, 8th] the first two years were spent at a convent school. These have embedded their conversion tactics to some extent into my mind where they encourage you to participate, slowly lure you into believing that your faith isn't very strong, then they embed the whole concept of 'sin' into your head, finally expound that only through jesus can one be salvated... This approach is too dirty for me, but those years may have messed a lot with my morality. Religions which I feel are harmonious with vedas [authentic jainism, baha'i faith, zoroastrianism, sikhism, etc....] needn't be rejected or prosletysed... When it comes to abrahamic religions, I prefer they follow their scripture as a 'law-book' but accept vedas as the source of all knowledge. However I dont believe any of these religions will ultimately survive - including vaidika dharma. I dont believe anything we follow currently is authentic in form. If patanjali's mahabhashya is to be trusted, according to it there are many more shaakhaas which are missing. Who can tell if they wont change the present interpretation of vedas?
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Shishya · Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject:

Namaste PD,

Prabhat · Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:24 am Post subject:

namaste all,

i agree with Shis, stop this topic and let us go further with our own religion.
muslims dont want to know abouth oer religion so why should we try to understeand thers.
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Shishya · Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:49 am Post subject:

Namaste Prabhat,

Lol, good point! It is interesting how wildly off-topic this discussion has gone. But, it has been a very enjoyable one, in my eyes. Wink

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ॐ सह नावतु । सह तौ भुनक्तु । सह वीर्यं करवावहै । तेजस्वि नावधीतमस्तु मा विद्विषावहै ॥
"Together may we be protected. Together may we be profited. Together may we do a hero's work. May we learn intelligently. May we never hate one another."
-Brihadaranyaka & Taittiriya Upanishads

Prabhat · Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:54 am Post subject:

Namaste Shis,

is nice to know what are the errors in some other religions, but he. let them maby in 100 years the eyes will be open.
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Shyena · Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:47 pm Post subject:

Just a note of clarification - by vaidika dharma, i mean the extant vaidika dharma. Smartha Sampradaya is based on vedas as well, but that doesn't mean they're vaidika dharma. In same manner, I categorise extant vaidika dharma..
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Shishya · Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject:

Namaste PD,

Point noted. Wink

And I agree with you. Vaidik Dharm is a lofty ideal towards which we strive. Do we ever truly attain it in our daily lives? I'm not sure. We are, in the end, rather ignorant little creatures.

It reminds me of a fellow Samajists who refuses to refer to himself as an Arya - out of respect to the notion of nobility. He says instead that he strives towards that goal, but that it is up to God to decide whether he led a truly noble life.
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ॐ सह नावतु । सह तौ भुनक्तु । सह वीर्यं करवावहै । तेजस्वि नावधीतमस्तु मा विद्विषावहै ॥
"Together may we be protected. Together may we be profited. Together may we do a hero's work. May we learn intelligently. May we never hate one another."
-Brihadaranyaka & Taittiriya Upanishads

Deepan Abisuriya · Junior Member Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 66

Namaste,

I agree with the above. But the fact remains that Jesus Christ has been more influencial in the world than any. I believe that He was bringing all together to the true light. I always have believed that the Vedas contain all knowledge and Jesus Christ was very much profound in His character and also in His teachings which was directly contrary to the ungodly ways of that time.

Speaking about waste of time. Let me tell you friends, the vedic thought -'let all noble thoughts flow from all sides' does mean that God has given knowledge in all other sources in all ages. The vedas are inclusive of all the dharma, but each religion exemplified it with a personality and expanded the thought to make known its significance.

For instance Love and grace of God in Bible, live and let live of Jains, etc. Dharma has been and will be throughout the world. Let us not be like others who use the word "heathen" in the Bible to hindus, without understanding that the Bible has exalted hindus, as it has done with Isralites and Arabians. Our race and dharma has neverbeen away from the world nor has been rejected in the Bible or Quran. How can I prove this...mmmmmm. Ok!!

I think its time that I post a new thread on my view, but first by presenting to you all, a 15 pages book I wrote on why I became a hindu and why joined Arya Samaj. This will make all this discussion more lively.

But how can I present the 15 pages here. Can I just copy and paste it by starting a new thread, titled 'Hinduism -the realisation of moksha"- this is the title of my 15 pages book (my first contribution after I bacame a hindu).

With the above discussion I know that, all are not familiar with the prophecies of the Bible. If you all permit. Can I present it in a new thread? Which to a inquisitive mindset of Aryans will be very informative to know that the vedic dharma is universal according to the Bible, and will again rule the world (inclusive of all religions as all religions come from God of Vedas).

I belive that God revealed the truth to sanskrit people through Vedas, Hebrews and others through Bible and to Arabians thorugh Quran. All have the same light but misintrpreted by their religions who claim to be having the light. But the scriptures have the truth correctly when interpreted correctly. All scriptures are lights of one God in different phases.

Let us not be like them who claim that "our religion" only is true and that all are false. Let us understand the open minded approach of the vedas to all thoughts. This mindset was the main reason, that we hindus were greatly repected in the first century when Jesus lived.

We were active players in dharma and history in almost all - the then promonent lands.

Awaiting your response.

Deepan.

Shishya · Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:32 pm Post subject:

Namaste Deepan,

If you would like to start a new thread to present your writing, that would be fine by me. Very Happy

My only concern is that 15 pages of text might make for a rather lengthy post - perhaps to the extent that few would take the time to read it all in one sitting. Is there a way you could present it in shorter installments (section by section, perhaps) so that we may have a chance to read and discuss the points as you raise them? Of course, such a method of presentation is not necessary, however. If you want to post the whole thing at once, you are free to do so.

Regardless of which path you choose, please post it in the General Discussion Forum.
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ॐ सह नावतु । सह तौ भुनक्तु । सह वीर्यं करवावहै । तेजस्वि नावधीतमस्तु मा विद्विषावहै ॥
"Together may we be protected. Together may we be profited. Together may we do a hero's work. May we learn intelligently. May we never hate one another."
-Brihadaranyaka & Taittiriya Upanishads

Prabhat · Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:08 pm Post subject:

Namaste Deepan,

if Shis dos not mind, go ahead bro. i just hope you dont use difficult words Sad

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