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What are your views on extraterrestrial life?
I think there is life on other planets.
63%
 63%  [ 7 ]
I'm not sure, but I think it could be possible.
9%
 9%  [ 1 ]
I'm waiting for proof.
9%
 9%  [ 1 ]
No. I don't think there is life on other planets.
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
I am an alien.
18%
 18%  [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 11

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject: Vedic Wisdom and Alien Life Forms Reply with quote

What are your views on extraterrestrial life? Take the poll and let us know! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont see why there cannot be life on other planets. But I also cannot see why they should be primitive man-eaters or super advanced. Nor do I understand why they should be either grey men or little green men. They most likely are no diff than us..
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok ok so I was the one who voted "I am an alien"

But I agree with PD, life on other planets may not necessarily be "little green" men, super advance or primitive.
If they were super advanced, then perhaps they would have made contact with us, or perhaps they did and we're not aware. Area 51 anyone? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Area 51... Other than it being a prohibited place what exactly is in support of being some alien thing? I prefer the other 'supersonic aircraft' explanation.. But america seriously was retard to say in the 60's to say the crashed object was a UFO one day and weather balloon the next day!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with PD, there could be life on other planets. Theres not much evidence to base this on but it is possible
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namaste,

I think there is life on other planets. It might be in a different form, but I think it is statistically impossible for the rest of the universe to be devoid of life. Besides, it would be an incredible waste of space. Laughing

Here's what Swamiji had to say on the subject:

Swamiji wrote:
Question: Are they (the sun, moon and stars) inhabited by man and other living creatures or not?

Swamiji: They are worlds inhabited by men and other living beings. The Shatpatha Braahmana says:

"The earth, the waters, the heated bodies, space, the moon, the sun, and the other planets are all called vasus or abodes because they are abodes of living beings as well as of inanimate objects."
-Shatpatha Braahmana 14:6, 9, 4

When the sun, the moon and other planets are abodes like our earth, what doubt can there be in their being inhabited? When this little earth of God is full of men and other living beings, can it ever be possible that all other worlds are void (of the same)? How can myriads of other worlds be of any use unless they are inhabited by men and other beings? It follows, therefore, that they are inhabited.

Question: Do they have the same bodies? Would men and other living beings in the other worlds have the same kind of bodies and bodily organs as they have here or different?

Swamiji: Most likely there is some difference in their form and the like, just as you see some difference in form, countenance, appearance and complexion among people of different countries as the Ethiopeans, Chinese, the Indians and the Europeans. But the creation of the same class or species on this earth and other planets is identical. The class or species that has its sense organs (such as eyes) in some definite place in the body here (on this planet) will have them in the same place on other planets. For it is said in the Veda:

"Just as God created the sun, the moon, the earth, and other planets and the objects therein in the previous cycles of Creation, the same has He done in the present Creation."
-Rig Veda X:190

He does not make any alteration.

Question: Are the same Vedas revealed in the other worlds as in this?

Swamiji: Yes. Just as the policy of a king is the same in all the countries under his rule, so is the Vedic system of Government of the King of kings (God) the same in all the worlds over which He rules.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

namaste all,

i want proof.
and what i read

"Swamiji: Most likely there is some difference in their form and the like, just as you see some difference in form, countenance, appearance and complexion among people of different countries as the Ethiopeans, Chinese, the Indians and the Europeans. But the creation of the same class or species on this earth and other planets is identical. The class or species that has its sense organs (such as eyes) in some definite place in the body here (on this planet) will have them in the same place on other planets. For it is said in the Veda:

Most likely, what dos that means.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namaste Prabhat,

'Most likely' is roughly "zeer waarschijnlijk" in Dutch.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shishya wrote:
Namaste Prabhat,

'Most likely' is roughly "zeer waarschijnlijk" in Dutch.


Namaste Shis,

oke zeer waarschijnlijk means not realy sure in mine opinion.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namaste Prabhat,

It's more in the sense of 'there is a high probability'. ("Eine hohe Warhsheinlichkeit" in German.) But no, there is no 100% certainty.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namaste Shis,

So why did the swami said something like that?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namaste Prabhat,

I think because Swamiji didn't travel to other planets and see them for himself! Laughing

But seriously, he's simply saying that the differences we see here are probably translatable to the differences that exist between life here and on other planets. Perhaps not exactly, but more or less.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namaste Shis,

lol bro.
but there are no aliens on our milky way. other wise they would already found something, even if it wa some micro-thing. maby out site our milkyway. who knows.

but supose they find something, what dos that tell us aboutn the Veda. or is the Veda a book only for humans/animals on earth.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namaste,

I believe, that there are other life forms in this universe, as I believe, there is a God.

They may not look like us, or act the way we do. Their evolution may be influenced quite differently, depending on the geological make-up of their respective habitats.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namaste,

thats is what i think, but not in this galaxy
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namaste Prabhat,

You wrote:
But suppose they find something. What does that tell us about the Vedas? Or are the Vedas only for humans/animals on earth?

That's what Swamiji was saying when he wrote:

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Question: Are the same Vedas revealed in the other worlds as in this?

Swamiji: Yes. Just as the policy of a king is the same in all the countries under his rule, so is the Vedic system of Government of the King of kings (God) the same in all the worlds over which He rules.

Vedic Wisdom is not just valid for 'earthlings'. It is valid throughout the entire cosmos. All beings will be subject to the cycle of death and rebirth, and will be seeking after release from suffering, for example. And if there is intelligent life out there, then just as sure as God is merciful to His creatures, He will have given them the Vedas as well.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namaste,

Like Shish said, the Vedas are Universally bound, and not just limited to Earth.

Lol!. When we say 'Krinvanto Vishwam Aaryam' - 'Making the Universe Noble' - we literally mean, the entire Universe. Wink
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Devo wrote:
Namaste,

Like Shish said, the Vedas are Universally bound, and not just limited to Earth.

Lol!. When we say 'Krinvanto Vishwam Aaryam' - 'Making the Universe Noble' - we literally mean, the entire Universe. Wink


Namaste,

sorry at the home page it says WORLD
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namaste Prabhat,

Literally, vishvam means 'all this'. It can be interpreted to mean 'world' or 'universe'. In fact, however, it really means 'everything'.
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Namaste Shis,
thanks, and bro Devo sorry.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namaste,

comming back on Swami answer
Question: Are the same Vedas revealed in the other worlds as in this?

Swamiji: Yes. Just as the policy of a king is the same in all the countries under his rule, so is the Vedic system of Government of the King of kings (God) the same in all the worlds over which He rules.


dont you think he maby talking abouth the "worlds" in our minds.

i am just curious. this one topic i like Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namaste Prabhat,

I'm pretty sure Swamiji was referring to planets in the common sense of the word. Refer back to my earlier post for the full context. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namaste Shis,

but still, if i say there are ET's somewhere in the galaxy, people will laugh at me
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namaste Prabhat,

Well, if you say God exists, some people will laugh at you too. Wink

There are many respected scientists who believe there is life out there, waiting to be discovered. So, you wouldn't be alone...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namaste Shis,
problem with my dutch co workers is every time io say is believe in God, they say where is he. people are dying from hunger, people are killed in war.

so they dont laugh, they are sad abouth the thing happening in the world.

my religion says there is life out there, but still my mind dos not want to believe. lets wait and watch what will happen.





thanks for your understeanding Wink
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