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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:16 pm    Post subject: Havan- some how-toquestions from a newbie to the west Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

I have been in the USA for a few months now. Could you help me know how you perform the havan here? Ah- It used to be so easy back in India where there were neem and peepal trees everywhere and no smoke detectors...Good Ol'Days
1. Where do you source your samidhas from? What are the natural woods here that are suited for havan? I stayed on the east coast,( saw many pines there) and now am in California, any local info will be of great help.

2. What do you do to your smoke alarm to enable a vighna-free havan?

3. When do you schedule the sandhya and havan? the days seem so long in summer here - especially as I came from India recently- the sun didnt go down even by 8.00 pm in the northern USA. (I guess I am a bit away from the Land of the midnight sun but I was wondering how Sandhya schedules apply there?)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

come on someone please help me out here...
Doesnt anyone do havan at home here?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mitra wrote:
come on someone please help me out here...
Doesnt anyone do havan at home here?


is there no website about Arya Samaj in the States. Confused


and for the fire alarm, you can get the batteries out. open the windows and balcony
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are websites but i didnt come across any such practical details.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mitra wrote:
there are websites but i didnt come across any such practical details.

are there no mandirs in the neighbour
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namaste Mitra,

You wrote:
1. Where do you source your samidhas from? What are the natural woods here that are suited for havan? I stayed on the east coast,( saw many pines there) and now am in California, any local info will be of great help.

For samidhas in the west, you can use any of the following:

  • vansh - oak
  • pipal - banyan
  • polash - maple
  • damar - fig
  • aam - mango
  • boddh - "bo tree", (ficus religiosa)
  • sal - (shorea robusta)
  • chir - pine or long leaf pine (pinus roxburghii sargent)
  • vilva bel - (aegle marmelos)
I also know of people who use cherrywood.

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2. What do you do to your smoke alarm to enable a vighna-free havan?

Like Prabhat said, take out the batteries if possible. Some alarms also have an adjustable setting. Also, it's a good idea to have at least one window open to aid in the circulation of fresh air.

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3. When do you schedule the sandhya and havan? the days seem so long in summer here - especially as I came from India recently- the sun didnt go down even by 8.00 pm in the northern USA. (I guess I am a bit away from the Land of the midnight sun but I was wondering how Sandhya schedules apply there?)

Sandhya should be performed once before sunrise and once after sunset. Agnihotra should be performed once or twice in the interval period, i.e. at least once after sunrise amd optionally also before sunset. If you choose to perform it only once a day, then you will need to recite both the morning and evening mantras in the morning.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you so much for that information. You are a life saver.
Just wanted to know how do we decide which trees are suitable for samidhas?
Our ancient sages may have talked about the medicinal herbs and trees in the East. So are we in an ongoing process here learning about the flora here and its suitability to Agnihotra?
Do you think the Scandinavian countries might be more into such research because they have similar traditions?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namsate Shishya,

Thank you so much once again. But I am so sorry I didnt really follow the format of posting on the forum in the post above. I am making up for it now in this one.

Thanks,
Mitra.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mitra wrote:
Namsate Shishya,

Thank you so much once again. But I am so sorry I didnt really follow the format of posting on the forum in the post above. I am making up for it now in this one.

Thanks,
Mitra.


Namaste Mitra,
So how did it go????? we didnt hear from you sinds Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namaste Prabhat,
Well there were a lot of figs and plentiful samidhas in California. I have a l'il
havan kund. I think it might be the tiniest you have ever seen. ( I will try to upload it in the thread Shishya started).
Yes , my havans went vighna free in Cal. No alarms set off. Removed them totally for the duration of the havan.
Now I am in Chicago. Hope to find pines here for samidhas and have to try and make the ghee from butter the way Shishya told.
Thanks everyone.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mitra wrote:
Namaste Prabhat,
Well there were a lot of figs and plentiful samidhas in California. I have a l'il
havan kund. I think it might be the tiniest you have ever seen. ( I will try to upload it in the thread Shishya started).
Yes , my havans went vighna free in Cal. No alarms set off. Removed them totally for the duration of the havan.
Now I am in Chicago. Hope to find pines here for samidhas and have to try and make the ghee from butter the way Shishya told.
Thanks everyone.

Namaste Mitra,
it dos not mather if it is a tiny havan kund. as long it dos the work you need it for. you say you are in california, i have been told that there a lot of Surinamis over there, why not ask them where to find the ghee.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namaste Prabhat,

I am in chicago now, Do you know anyone from around here please?
. And as for the Ghee from indian groceries is expensive as it is imported from India. I better try the method suggested by Shishya.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namaste Mitra,

If you need furthur assistance, I would recommend that you try to contact the nearest Arya Samaj Mandir in your Area, if there is any. If not, you can contact the following Aryan Organization listed on the internet:

Arya Samaj Chicagoland
600 Hillview, West Chicago, Illinois 60185, U.S.A.
Contact: Dr. Sukhdev Chand Soni. Phone: (815) 973-2447.
E-mail: scsoniwebtv@yahoo.com

It's the closest one I could have located.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mitra wrote:
Namaste Prabhat,

I am in chicago now, Do you know anyone from around here please?
. And as for the Ghee from indian groceries is expensive as it is imported from India. I better try the method suggested by Shishya.
Thanks,
Mitra.

Namaste Mitra,
sorry bro, i dont know anybody in the states.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namaste Mitra,

We have one other member from the Chicago area that I know of: Opankis. But they haven't posted anything yet, so I don't know anything about them. However, perhaps you could use the e-mail function through the forum here to get in touch. You should be able to use the following link:

http://aryasamaj.forumwise.com/profile.php?mode=email&u=35
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