Arya Samaj

Mitra · Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject: Swami Agnivesh

Hi,
Could anyone tell me about Swami Agnivesh? And why there seems to be resentment against him?
I know him as a media savvy person who is good at getting exposure for himself and his causes. He comes up with new agitations from time to time on issues which seem to be politically correct.
I feel he always gets more coverage than the organization.
But atleast he is doing something. The Samaj in India is so inactive and without a voice , it is almost dead.
And some of the things he says like exchange of ideas with Islam and christianity really make more sense than the medieval fundamentalism of RSS.

Shishya · Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:41 pm Post subject:

Namaste Mitra,

I posted some information on Swami Agnivesh a while back. You can view it here:

What are your views on Swami Agnivesh?

Removal of 'Offensive' Words from Satyarth Prakash?

If you would like to discuss him or his ideas (which I think is important at this time), let's move this discussion to one of those threads. If you like, you could post your questions there.
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ॐ सह नावतु । सह तौ भुनक्तु । सह वीर्यं करवावहै । तेजस्वि नावधीतमस्तु मा विद्विषावहै ॥
"Together may we be protected. Together may we be profited. Together may we do a hero's work. May we learn intelligently. May we never hate one another."
-Brihadaranyaka & Taittiriya Upanishads

Shyena · Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:46 pm Post subject:

Actually i suggest maintaining two version of satyarth prakash:
'Satyarth Prakash, As It Is'
and
'Satyarth Prakash Concise Edition'

The reason being that people might not opt to join arya samaj when they see vociferocious attack of their traditions..
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Mitra · Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:46 pm Post subject:

PD , The Arya Samajis call a spade a spade , no matter if it makes them unpopular. Truth is more important to us than popular appeal.

What we can do is shift the focus from criticizing others outright to presenting the unique knowledge and rational perspective which only Arya Samaj can . Do some constructive work rather than bashing others all the time. And learn fast how to gain more eyeballs in this new media- obsessed world. And reach all sections, especially the youngsters who seek spiritualism , and respect our heritage but cant find any sources of knowledge other than the family priest or the granny or the fishy info on the web.
A watered down version of Satyarth Prakash , would not really live up to its name.
Well you can add some explanatory preface or something to a new edition explaining the views but cutting out something which defines us is not really acceptable. It is a work of a single person and people are free to criticize it , accept it...

And lastly, tell me how many non-aryasamajis have even heard of the book? And do aryasamajis even put in the effort to read it, leave alone study?
Even if you tone down the content I wonder if it is going to climb up the popularity charts... It is a tough read any which way...

Prabhat · Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:36 am Post subject:

i realy never heart abouth this man. Confused

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Shyena · Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:15 am Post subject:

Mitra · Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:51 pm Post subject:

Shishya · Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:02 pm Post subject:

Namaste,

I can back Mitra up on this. I am a member of several online Arya Samaj communities, and usually the only thing that gets the regular members there to participate is some kind of hyper-critical controversy. Serious questions or requests for help rarely get answered. But if someone wants to protest something or someone, you can always find tons of outraged voices both for and against it.

There is not enough uplifting, constructive discussion going on, and the lack of reliable information is appalling. Instead of remaining active, many in the community have become reactive only - reacting against politics, trends, groups, etc. The Arya Samaj is not doing a very good job of spreading the message of Vaidik Dharm as of yet. It spends more time explaining what it is not than propounding what it is. We should all work to make this change, and the sooner the better.
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Namaste,

Shishya
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ॐ सह नावतु । सह तौ भुनक्तु । सह वीर्यं करवावहै । तेजस्वि नावधीतमस्तु मा विद्विषावहै ॥
"Together may we be protected. Together may we be profited. Together may we do a hero's work. May we learn intelligently. May we never hate one another."
-Brihadaranyaka & Taittiriya Upanishads

Shyena · Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:25 am Post subject:

Namaste,
Thats the main reason I enjoy sticking to this forum. When i subscribed to the yahoo groups, they were pretty much dogmatic and following marxist ideas if you ask me, to the extent of calling krishna 'mythical'. All the threads were mainly hate threads [reminds of the 'hate hour' in 1984...], this forum is much more comfortable where i can actually expect answers to my questions and not flames.
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Prabhat · Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:55 pm Post subject:

haha so we are going the right way in this forum Wink

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Devo · Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:59 pm Post subject:

Namaste,

I agree with all of you. This forum has the potential of becoming a breaker to the stagnant attitude possessed by members of the Arya Samaj.

As Bhai Prabhat mentioned that we are following a noble path on this forum, and the only way we can maintain this is by being open to discussion, respectable, and contented with the outcome of the discussions.

I commend each and everyone of you for portraying all of the above mentioned, and hope that we all continue int he same direction.

Om Swasti!

Devo.