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Prabhat · Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject: Divorce in Vaidik Dharm?

Namaste all,

last saterday i had a smal party at home. and we were just wondering if it is possible to get divorce in the Vaidikh Dharm. because we could fing the hindi or sanskrit word for divorce.

so question is it possible, and what do we do if 2 people dos not want to live with each other.

btw, if we already have a topic abouth this, please link me to there, and get ride of this topic.

Namaste Prab. Wink

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Prabhat · Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:18 pm Post subject:

Namaste all

oke i found something.

As one can see from the above discussion that the sanskar of vivah (marriage) is distinct from that of Garbhadhan. The sanskar is defined in the scriptures as follows ( jaimini sutra).
That action which makes any thing or anybody eligible for doing a particular act is called sanskar or संस्कारो नाम स भवति यस्मिज्जाते पदार्थो भवति कस्यचिदर्थस्य ॥
Vivah or marriage in Hindus is not only a contract but a sanskar and therfore it cannot be reversed and therefore there is no Sanskrit equivalent of the word "Divorce".
What is vivah sanskar? Vivah is that sanskar by which man and his wife resolve to transform physical attraction (vasana) into love (prem) , love into worship (bhakti) and worship into sacrifice (tyaga). When the couple is comfortable that such graduation of emotions is possible they perform Garbhadhan and seek Indra's blessings for the progeny.

When couple candidly confesses that such graduation in emotions is not possible due to circumstances (external, physiological or mental) Crown can reverse the marriage.

This is the wisdom and strength of Hindu (or Vedic) marriage.

Surin Usgaonkar , Mumbai

but still i like to know, how can you get divorced in the Vaidikh way. there has to be a thing to stop it. and dont worry is not for me Yoohoo!

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Shyena · Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:31 pm Post subject:

Prabhat · Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject:

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Prabhat · Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:53 pm Post subject:

Namaste Sunita,

i am sorry. i will stop.
but maby someone else can help me via pm.

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Shishya · Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:16 pm Post subject:

Namaste Sunita,

I understand that this may be a sensitive issue for you, but unfortunately it is a topic that many people need to discuss and inform themselves about. Therefore I will leave the discussion open for those who may be interested. However, you are free to ignore the thread altogether. I don't think anyone will expect you to respond if it bothers you.

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Everyone else can check out the thread on Sanskaars for information relating to spousal separation as mentioned in Manu Smriti. To summarize:

Marriage as a Sanskaar is therefore unable to be reversed. However, mutually consenting spouses can separate from one another, though they are not free to marry again.
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ॐ सह नावतु । सह तौ भुनक्तु । सह वीर्यं करवावहै । तेजस्वि नावधीतमस्तु मा विद्विषावहै ॥
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Sunita · Arya Ladies Forum Moderator Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 567

ok
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(1) If you can imagine it, you can achieve it; if you can dream it, you can become it. William Arthur Ward

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(3) Andre Gide: Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it.

Prabhat · Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject:

pappukishore · Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject:

Namaste Prabhat,

To the possible extent i will try to make people together rather than seperating them because unity is strength i feel that i'm a good counscelor i make people understand the problem and ask them to look for a solution to the problem rather than making a new problem by sperating but in this case the person suffering will be their childern.

Prabhat · Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:03 pm Post subject:

Namaste Pappu,

as you wish, but lett people come to you for help. dont try to force people. it could work the otherway around.

like i said, al in there own time.
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pappukishore · Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:09 pm Post subject:

Namaste Prabhat,

I do things forcibly when i feel that they are in my circle but as you said

Prabhat · Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:32 pm Post subject:

if something happens in front of you, you should help.
but we are talking abouth, if someone has a problem you should noy force them to speak about it, you have to give them time.
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Prabhat · Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject:

Namaste,

a mama-ji of mine found the word, vivaah niched. he told this word means divorce in sanskrit.

is this true?
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Shishya · Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject:

Namaste Prabhat,

Vivaha is the word for the marriage ceremony. According to my sources, the correct legal term is striipurushaviccheda, lit. 'wife' or 'woman' (strii) - 'man' or 'husband' (purusha) - 'separation', 'division' or 'divorce' (viccheda). I imagine one could simply say viccheda for short.
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ॐ सह नावतु । सह तौ भुनक्तु । सह वीर्यं करवावहै । तेजस्वि नावधीतमस्तु मा विद्विषावहै ॥
"Together may we be protected. Together may we be profited. Together may we do a hero's work. May we learn intelligently. May we never hate one another."
-Brihadaranyaka & Taittiriya Upanishads

Prabhat · Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:14 pm Post subject:

Namaste Shis,

did i type the name wrong"is it vavaah Viched or Niched.

but it is possible to get a divorce
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Shishya · Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject:

Namaste Prabhat,

Ah! That could very well be. Vivaha viccheda (or Vivaah viched with a Hindi pronunciation) would also work. Wink

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ॐ सह नावतु । सह तौ भुनक्तु । सह वीर्यं करवावहै । तेजस्वि नावधीतमस्तु मा विद्विषावहै ॥
"Together may we be protected. Together may we be profited. Together may we do a hero's work. May we learn intelligently. May we never hate one another."
-Brihadaranyaka & Taittiriya Upanishads

Prabhat · Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:18 pm Post subject:

Namaste Shis,

thanks bro.

btw, off topic. my daughters find you look like Arjun Smile

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Prabhat · Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:49 am Post subject:

Namaste.
i was ask can a hindoe woman mary again. after a divorce or if her husband die.
and i found this in the Satyarht Prakash, page 130
i read: Re-marriage involves loss of true conjugal love and infraction of duty towards the departed husband or wife.
For these reasons, re-marriage, polygamy and polyandry are prohibited in the case of the twice born.
what dos twice born mean?

Q. ~ If one of the parties dies leaving no male issue, even then the family line will become extinct. Besides, if re-marriage be not allowed, the widows and widowers will resort to adultery and fornication, procure abortion, and will commit wicked deeds of a kindred nature. For these reasons re-marriage is desirable.

A. ~ No. If the widows and widowers desire to practice Brahmacharya, no such evil consequences will accrue. Again, if the widow or widower adopts a boy of her and his Class, the family line will be continued and there will be no danger of adultery being restored to. Those, however, who cannot control their passions may beget children by having recourse to Niyoga.
and whats Niyoga????
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Sunita · Arya Ladies Forum Moderator Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 567

Namaste!

I decided to respond to this thread. I realised that we are not allowed to remarry in vaidik dharma. I think this law should change because i believe that people should get second chances in life.

Our soul is just in a body. When we die and reincarnate its just a different body but the soul is the same and we are free to go through the sanskars in life. Why wait to reincarnate? This law is not fair.....its like punishing a person for their marriage failure.

It also encourage adultery, sucide and change of religion. People will go where they are mostly accepted. In islaam, a man or woman can be married to more than one partner. Our books tells us we only have one chance and one partner. What should young divorce people do?

Not everybody going to wait until they die..the scriptures encourage us to die faster.
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(1) If you can imagine it, you can achieve it; if you can dream it, you can become it. William Arthur Ward

(2) The self is not something ready-made, but something in continuous formation through choice of action.John Dewey:

(3) Andre Gide: Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it.

Prabhat · Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:53 pm Post subject:

Namaste,

well litle di. i have not seen it this way. but maby the ohters have an answer.
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Prabhat · Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:47 am Post subject:

Namaste,
can one marry 2 times in a maroh.
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