Arya Samaj

Prabhat · Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 12:20 am Post subject: first lines

qoute's from Satyarth Prakash

in the Q’uran he first lines are.
1. "(I begin this book) In the name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful." (1*:1.)

C. ~ The Mohammedans claim that this Q’uran is the Word of God, but it appears from the above passage that the author of this book was some person other than God, since had it been God himself, He would not have said: "(I begin this book) in the name of God etc." He would have, instead, said: "I write this book for the instruction of mankind." If it be said that by beginning His book in this fashion He means to teach men as to what they should say when about to do a thing, it cannot be true, since some men will do even sinful deeds in the name of God and thereby bring disgrace on Him.

If (the Mohammedan) God be merciful, why has He sanctioned that men should inflict great suffering on other creatures by killing them for their food? Are not these animals innocent? Are they not His creatures? He should have also advised men to begin only good deeds in His name and not evil ones. Thus the passage (under discussion) is quite ambiguous. Should even such sinful acts, as theft, adultery, untruthfulness in speech, begun in God's name? Very likely it is on account of this ambiguity that the (Mohammedan) butchers etc., mutter "In the name of God, the compassionate, the most Merciful as the moment of cutting the throats of cows and other animals."

It is clear then that the Mohammedans do begin even evil deeds in the name of God. The Mohammedan God can never be called Merciful, because He shows no mercy towards those animals (whose slaughter He sanctions). If the Mohammedans do not know the true meaning of this passage, its revelation is of no use

in the bible the first lines are.
1. "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. (1:1, 2.)
C.* ~ What do you call the beginning?>

Christian. ~ The first creation of the world.

C. ~ Is this the first creation? Was the world never created before?

Ch. ~ We do not know whether it was created before or not. God alone knows that.

C. ~ When you do not know that, why should you believe in this book (i.e., the Bible) which cannot enlighten you on these points and pinning your faith to it, preach it to others and thereby ensnare them into this religion which is do full of doubts. Why don't you embrace the Vedic religion which is free from all doubts and enlightens one on all points. When you do not understand the world created by God - His handiwork, hoe can you then know God?

C. ~ What do you understand by the term heaven?

Ch. ~ The empty space and what is above.

C. ~ How was this empty space created? Besides, it is all-pervading and very subtle and uniform both above and below.

so what are the first lines in the Veda's.
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Namaste,
Prabhat

Arya Putra · Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 3:01 am Post subject:

Namaste Prabhatji,

This same question was asked earlier in the Know Our Vedas forum, to which a reply was given.

The Rig Veda begins with "Om Agnimiile. . . " As noted earlier, there are many ways to interpret the mantra, but essentially this mantra is instructing us about the qualities (characteristics) of the Supreme Self (GOD), as well as our own self (the embodied soul), and Nature. The mantra reveals that our real nature is to worship (invoke) GOD by observing the ways (or laws) of Nature and realizing the Supreme Conscious Power that works through Nature for our benefit and supreme happiness.

Arya Putra

Prabhat · Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject:

Arya Putra · Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:38 pm Post subject:

Observe your own mind and body (elements of Nature). You realize that many of the functions performed by the mind and body are carried on without your conscious direction or assistance. Your heart is beating, the body breathes, the hair grows and falls out, the eyes blink, and you sleep, and think, and so on.

We live by a Power (GOD) which is beyond us, but we also live and interact in this world by the power of our own Atman, as well as by the power ‘inherent’ in Nature. The entire Universe is ‘breathing’ with the Power of God, expanding and contracting with each ‘breath.’ That Supreme Power is the Author of the various seasons of Time in the form of the various Yugas and transformations of mind and matter.

Every particle of the Universe is infused with the Power of God in the form of PRANA. This Creative force sets in motion the primordial Matter (PRAKRITI), bringing about the manifestation of the various qualities (GUNAS) inherent in Nature (Prakriti). Essentially, the Gunas can be understood as cosmic forces, since they (the Gunas) constitute Prakriti infused with Prana.

Life is the interplay of the Cosmic Forces (the Gunas, representing Prakriti), Atman through its inherent soul-force, or Prana, and the Absolute (GOD) through the ever-abiding Presence as SatChitAnand (Absolute BEING, CONSCIOUSNESS, and BLISS).

To experience the Highest State of Being, the Supreme Consciousness, and the Supreme Bliss we have to realize the Divine Presence within ourselves and within the Universe. This means we have to improve ourselves and our environment through the daily, lifelong, Yajna of self-study (studying the Self), self-experimentation (applying the principles of Consciousness in the ‘laboratory’ of life’s experiences such as childhood, young adulthood, adulthood, and old age), and Self-application (applying the Knowledge of the Self for the attainment of MOKSHA: complete freedom from Ignorance).

OM

Your well-wisher,
Arya Putra