Arya Samaj

Shishya

Namaste All,

As most of you are probably aware, Swamiji was an initiator of the shuddhi (lit: purification) movement, which was intended to help those who had once converted to another religion - such as Christianity or Islam - to return to Vaidik Dharm with a clean conscience. As far as I know, this movement is still underway and shuddhi can be had by anyone who desires it.

But my question is this: Should there be a shuddhi ceremony for 'Non-Hindus'? Does anyone know of such a thing being performed during Swamiji's time or afterwards? Please comment below! Very Happy

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Namaste,

Shishya
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ॐ सह नावतु । सह तौ भुनक्तु । सह वीर्यं करवावहै । तेजस्वि नावधीतमस्तु मा विद्विषावहै ॥
"Together may we be protected. Together may we be profited. Together may we do a hero's work. May we learn intelligently. May we never hate one another."
-Brihadaranyaka & Taittiriya Upanishads

Hiten · Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:33 pm Post subject:

Namaste

I am aware of instances of where Muslim females have married Hindu men, and have by their own choice had a shuddhi ceremony at Arya Samaj (UK).

I'm sure it could be common practice in India, though the person being converted into Vaidik Dharm is likely to be someone of the lower class. Hence becoming an equal.

Personally, I have no issue as long as its not encouraged by force or foul means like what we see with many missionaries around the world.
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Regards, Hiten

Aum Shantih Shantih Shantih

Prabhat · Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject:

whats "Shuddhi ".
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Prabhat

Shishya · Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:13 pm Post subject:

Namaste Prabhat,

'Shuddhi' literally means 'purification' or 'cleansing', but in this context, it also means 'conversion' or 'acceptance of dharma'. It is a formal ceremony which helps one mentally confirm that one is no longer a Christian or Muslim, for example, but has returned to the practice of Vaidik Dharm.

Swami Dayanand initiated the practice of shuddhi to counteract the closedmindedness of the Braahmanas of his age. At that time (and still in many places today) if a Hindu converted to Islam or Christianity, it was made impossible for him to ever return to Dharma, as he has been cut off from the Hindu community. Swamiji saw that this was rediculous, and that Vaidik Dharm was open to all peoples, even ex-Muslims and ex-Christians. A man, having recognized the error of his ways, cannot be forever condemned for having made a mistake. So, the Arya Samaj began performing the shuddhi ceremony as a way to formally reintroduce individuals into the community.
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Namaste,

Shishya
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ॐ सह नावतु । सह तौ भुनक्तु । सह वीर्यं करवावहै । तेजस्वि नावधीतमस्तु मा विद्विषावहै ॥
"Together may we be protected. Together may we be profited. Together may we do a hero's work. May we learn intelligently. May we never hate one another."
-Brihadaranyaka & Taittiriya Upanishads

Prabhat · Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:19 pm Post subject:

Namaste.

ok i see. what a great religion we have Wink

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Prabhat

Devo · Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject:

Namaste,

In the Video link Shishya provided in the Video Link Thread, explains a little bit about 'shuddi'.

It is worth the watch. However, the video requires Real Player.

To download, click here

Prabhat · Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:00 pm Post subject:

Namaste,
dont have real player at work
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Prabhat

Shishya · Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:57 pm Post subject:

Shyena · Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:24 am Post subject:

Oops! I thought the poll was "should there be shuddhi ceremony for hindus" not "non-hindus" so voted No..

Prabhat · Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:20 am Post subject:

Deepan Abisuriya · Junior Member Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 66

Million thanks to swamiji. If it was not for him, I wouldn't have had an opportunity to return back to my original sanathana dharma.

It is because of the shudhi, that I have been reinstated into your community. Thanks for the Arya samaj and its vedic ritual of Shudhi.

I am very happy to be a hindu. I will live and die as a Hindu and only as a Hindu !!!!
Thanks, thanks ...million thanks.!!!!

Mitra · Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:25 am Post subject:

Deepan Abisuriya · Junior Member Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 66

Namaste,

It is rightly said that very few get converted to the vedic dharma. All religions except vedic dharma has non- human side which is known as the sin factor or the permission to sin. For instance, christianity doesnot preach discipline, but a utopian dream of 'get salvation by joining the christian fold', but there are sinners in it. This is not the Bible philosophy. Talak is a way of enjoying women in the pretext of populating the community.

All these and many more are not found in the vedic dharma. We as new converts want to lead a disciplined pure life rather than live in a sinful state. We do need the help of the hindus who were born hindus to know the practices more clearly. But not to be underestimated in the name of caste.

There is nothing to be called a upper caste when the charater of the person is by itself impure and evil.

Thanks,
Deepan

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Shyena · Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:38 pm Post subject:

Prabhat · Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject:

niranjan · Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:01 pm Post subject: Shuddi

I am a Hindu and do not belong to the Arya Samaj, but let me say that the Arya Samaj brought the Hindu religion back to its original traditions as stated in the Vedas. And by opposing casteism and bringing back converts back to its fold, it has done a great service to Hinduism and India. It has now become a role model for the various Hindu organisations in India.
There are no words to express the greatness of what Swami Dayananda Saraswati has done. To introduce such new concepts in the face of traditions born out of ignorance and opposition is truly a heroic and noble feat.
It is my ardent wish that the Arya Samaj penetrates into the nooks and corners of Hindu society, purging it of its evils and superstitions and prejudices. May you prosper.

Prabhat · Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:42 pm Post subject:

Namaste Niranjan,

from where do you have this info
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Prabhat

niranjan · Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject:

Prabhat · Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:40 pm Post subject:

niranjan · Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject:

Prabhat · Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject:

Namaste,

now i get it. Wink

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Prabhat

savitri · Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:41 am Post subject:

Do not brain-wash non-hindus. Do not impose your views on them. If they want it, convert them.
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Love is god & god is love.

Shyena · Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:25 am Post subject: