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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:39 pm Post subject: Terror Kingpin Free Man in Pakistan |
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Terror Kingpin Free Man in Pakistan
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Seema Mustafa
Asian Age
One of the most wanted men in India and high on the terror list, the founder of the Lash-kar-e-Tayyaba (LeT), Hafiz Saeed, was released by a Pakistan court shortly after midnight on Tuesday.
His organisation Jamaat-ud-Dawa’s "international spokesperson" Abdullah Muntazer told this newspaper from Lahore that Hafiz had gone back to his home after offering prayers at a mosque and that his 71 days in custody had been very "harmful" for the organisation.
Mr Muntazer, who also edits the Jamaat’s newspaper on the Internet, was very fluent in speech and insisted, predictably, that his organisation had no links with either the Lashkar or the Taliban. Questioned about the strong statements made by the Jamaat chief favouring the Lashkar-e-Tayyaba and the Taliban in the past, he said the support was to the cause and not to militancy. "Hafiz Saeed has no links with the Lashkar or with any militant activity," he continued to maintain, even as he justified terrorist attacks on Indian government targets and the security forces. For him, of course, the terrorists were all "freedom fighters".
The US state department, in April this year, had added the aliases Jamaat-ud-Dawa and Khidmat-e-Khalq to the "specially-designated global terrorist designation of Lashkar-e-Tayyaba." The state department had observed: "LeT is one of the three largest and best trained groups fighting in Kashmir against India. After the secretary of state’s designation of LeT as a terrorist organisation in 2001 and the Pakistani government’s banning the group, LeT renamed itself JUD in order to evade sanctions. JUD established IKK as a public welfare organisation that it utilises to collect funds and undertake other activities. LeT has been sanctioned by the United Nations 1267 Committee for its association with Al Qaeda."
Asked if he and his organisation supported violence, Mr Muntazer paused to ask: "What do you mean by violence?" He then went on to state: "If by violence you mean attacks on civilians by the state or the militants in Kashmir then we condemn it. But if the Indian security forces and government personnel are attacked, we support it." The website of this organisation is well maintained, user friendly, and at present preoccupied with the founder leader’s release, their views on Islam, and the controversial remarks by the Pope.
The Jamaat provides the political umbrella to the LeT, which functions as its military wing. The Pervez Musharraf government has virtually banned the Lashkar but not the Jamaat, which continues to collect funds and influence opinion for the militants in Jammu and Kashmir and the Taliban in Afghanistan. Mr Muntazer made it clear that there was no ban on the Jamaat, saying: "You are confusing us with the Lashkar." The Pakistani and international media have carried detailed reports establishing the links between the two organisations in the past.
Mr Muntazer did not criticise the joint terror mechanism between India and Pakistan. He first said that the Pakistan government had denied that this had been agreed upon, and then went on to say that even if it had he expected it to address the "state terror of India" in Kashmir. He said this was an acknowledged fact, with Pakistan Television and the Pakistan foreign office being of the same position. Virtually repeating Gen. Pervez Musharraf’s views, he said Pakistan was itself a "victim of terrorism" but went a step further to identify India as the perpetrator.
The Jamaat-ud-Dawa is very appreciative of Gen. Musharraf’s deal with the tribal chiefs in North Waziristan. Media reports have since suggested that the deal was not with the tribals but with the militants. Mr Muntazer said it was an "excellent" agreement, and not just his organisation but "entire Pakistan" was supporting it. He claimed that it represented a "defeat" for Indian intelligence. He also blamed India for the trouble in Baluchistan, leading to the "unfortunate" killing of Baloch leader Nawab Akbar Bugti.
Hafiz Saeed, according to his spokesperson, "termed the government’s allegations during his hearing in court, that Jamaat-ud-Dawa is a negative factor in Pakistan’s relations with its neighbour, as baseless." He reportedly said that if by "neighbour" the government meant India, then it was quite obvious that Pakistan’s relations with India were never excellent in the past, nor were they likely to be so in the future. He said India was an "eternal enemy of Pakistan", and had always tried to damage Pakistan’s reputation regardless of the Jamaat-ud-Dawa’s existence. In fact, the sum and substance of his first statement after his release was against India. Hafiz Saeed further said that his release had "proven that Pakistan’s judiciary cannot be influenced by governmental or foreign pressure and verdicts are passed purely on the basis of justice and merit, and this will definitely result in a tremendous increase of public trust and confidence in the impartiality of Pakistan’s courts."
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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for all this kind of people, terrorists, rappist, smuglers dopedealers, etc, etc.
the have to have a island, put them all there, and let them kill each other. _________________ Namaste,
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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I expect them to be smarter than that. They'd first make a boat and sail away from that place. _________________
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| PD wrote: | | I expect them to be smarter than that. They'd first make a boat and sail away from that place. |
hmmmmm that where you are wrong. you need to let military boots there, you escape, you will get shot _________________ Namaste,
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Namaste Prabhat,
Lez just shoot em up anyway.... Or if they bear valuable information; keep 'em in solitary confinement. _________________
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| PD wrote: | Namaste Prabhat,
Lez just shoot em up anyway.... Or if they bear valuable information; keep 'em in solitary confinement. |
na yaar,
i would like them to fight each other, like a gladiotor thing, and the last one we shoot. _________________ Namaste,
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Shyena Gold Member


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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Prabhat wrote: | | PD wrote: | Namaste Prabhat,
Lez just shoot em up anyway.... Or if they bear valuable information; keep 'em in solitary confinement. |
na yaar,
i would like them to fight each other, like a gladiotor thing, and the last one we shoot. |
Nah they'd never fight amongst themselves in such a case They know they're all going to die; so they'd prefer to not hurt each other and live... Depends on whether you'd kill these people then or no. _________________
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| PD wrote: | | Prabhat wrote: | | PD wrote: | Namaste Prabhat,
Lez just shoot em up anyway.... Or if they bear valuable information; keep 'em in solitary confinement. |
na yaar,
i would like them to fight each other, like a gladiotor thing, and the last one we shoot. |
Nah they'd never fight amongst themselves in such a case They know they're all going to die; so they'd prefer to not hurt each other and live... Depends on whether you'd kill these people then or no. |
oke oke, just make on big wall with no door. i am just makking jokes. but i think it is the best idea to make a island and guard that 24/7 and by escaping shoot to kill, that will keep them cool _________________ Namaste,
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:18 am Post subject: |
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Namaste bhaio,
Why waste money in building walls and posts , shoot them yaar, please shoot them...shoot them !!!!!!
Only then all will be safe.
This news is a clear indication, infact another instance of Pakistan perpetrating terrorism.
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:21 am Post subject: |
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| Deepan Abisuriya wrote: | Namaste bhaio,
Why waste money in building walls and posts , shoot them yaar, please shoot them...shoot them !!!!!!
Only then all will be safe.
This news is a clear indication, infact another instance of Pakistan perpetrating terrorism.
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Namaste deepan,
what will that make of you?
it is better to let them kill each other. just give them the guns  _________________ Namaste,
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Shyena Gold Member


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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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But you know, this is a silly thing to debate upon  _________________
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:13 am Post subject: |
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Namaste pd,
life is over before you know. maby tomorow when you are walking on the streets and a bom blast.
just giving a example. thats wy we say, kill them all. the world would be gratefull _________________ Namaste,
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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No i mean, if we get these scoundrels they'll be executed anyway whether it is electrocution or whatever.... I prefer guillotine  _________________
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:50 am Post subject: |
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wicked PD,  _________________ Namaste,
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