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Jesus in 'Yogic Posture' to Adorn Church Hall
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PTI

KOLLAM (KERALA): In a fusion of Indian and Western spiritual streams, an idol of Jesus Christ resembling the Buddha meditating under a 'bodhi' tree is to be consecrated in a Church prayer hall at a lakeside hamlet near here shortly.

The idol in golden-and-copper hues installed in the meditation hall named 'Jagat Jyoti Mandir', built by the Catholic church at Parimanam village, depicts the Christ sitting cross-legged in 'padmasanam' posture with his right hand raised showing the 'yogic mudra' and the left hand resting on the lap as Hindu and Buddhist sages are often
depicted in Indian art for centuries.

The mantra 'aum yeshu christuve namaha', echoing the vedic invocation of the supreme being, has been displayed prominently in the prayer hall.

"It is an attempt in incarnating the Christian experience in the religious ethos of India by bringing about a blending of Western and Indian art forms to transfuse the Christian theology in Indian motifs. The mandir will provide the right ambience for meditation," said Fr Romance Antony, Director of the Quilon Service Society under the Kollam
Catholic diocese.

Set on the sylvan banks of the Ashtamudi lake, the mandir was also designed as a place to promote inter-religious dialogue through meditation, prayer and conventions, he said.

A granite block resembling a natural rock has been placed before the idol where the priests would be performing the mass by sitting near it.

Above the idol is a painting depicting the Last Supper, again employing Indian motifs. The painting shows the Christ and the 12 apostles sitting on the floor cross-legged with banana leaves spread out before them for the bread and wine to be served.

Two traditional 'nilavilakkus', the bellmetal lamps used in the Hindu temples in Kerala, have been placed to light up the hall, dispensing with the western candles.

The mandir would be declared opened by Bishop Stanly Roman of the Kollam diocese on January 26.

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Mitra · Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:25 am Post subject:

Namaste,
Shouldn't there be a law against plagiarizing Vedic mantras against cooking up such verses like "Yeshu Kristave Namah" . And to add Om at the beginning of it? It isn't even Sanskrit !
But the christians have adapted such methods everywhere sneaking in local customs . A christian wedding in my neighbourhood has two parts - the first includes all local customs like a good muhurat , applying turmeric and even blessings from the Hindu Priests. Then the later part of blessings in the church follows minorly.
Christian women are sent in groups to poorer areas where they chat up and make good friends , help women in need to go to hospitals etc, then start prayer meetings singing Bhajans in Hindu homes ,in which course some outsider from the locality gives a sermon couched in local idiom about a new God and how he protects from scary demons which bring disease . They act so friendly they remind me of Amway salesmen. Mad

So cloying and sneaky and so full of Falsehood.
But Hindus don't have the tendency to question anything labelled holy. I guess influenced by the RamaKrishna Paramahansa quote about all roads leading to same destination.
Thats what emboldens such Missionary efforts.
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Shishya · Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:57 am Post subject:

Namaste Mitra Ji,

I finally found a picture of the original statue mentioned in the article:

Hmm...where have I seen this before?

Oh...right.

This is an excerpt from another article about the 'temple' entitled: 'Jagat Jyoti Mandir' : Perfect brotherhood or Perfect deception?

Shyena · Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject:

To the extent of replicating the (aum? vitarka?) mudra. Mitraji, actually you can't blame RK paramhansa on that - I mean, which sanatana dharmik saint DIDN'T say that all paths lead to one?

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Mitra · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:06 am Post subject:

Namaste,

I happened to come across this story on a blog...made me think of our topic...

"I heard a story that a 'native' Indian (American) stepped into a catholic church and passed out. Later, she said, she couldnt place a gory image or a man bleeding on a cross is considered 'god' "

(The source is a small comment on http://sheikhchili.sulekha.com/blog/post/2007/02/my-son-is-god-fearing-literally/comments.htm)
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Shyena · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject:

Prabhat · Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:39 am Post subject:

Namaste all,

whats up, whats all the comment abouth.

At Shyena. you say. hindus act cowardly misunderstanding the true message of the many devoted personalities.

what o you mean. do you mean they are afraid to say something. i wonder why Hindoes are softies around the world. they never say anything. how come??
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Prabhat · Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:45 am Post subject:

Shyena · Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:56 am Post subject:

Prabhat · Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:24 am Post subject:

Shyena · Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject:

My friend? Its the case with almost all of sanatana dharmiks! And with the marxists dominating the whole scene, its like anti-hindu = good guy, pro-hindu = hindutva terrorist, etc...

And no, its a pretty popular and outrageously flawed belief that sanatana dharmiks dont believe in one god. The north is majorly influenced by arya samaj and keep aum at the top, while the south is majorly influenced by RK math and keep a 'transforming brahman' on top. Even the puranas are not polytheistic, instead they assign the title of absolute to different figures. Sanatana Dharma better stay away from christianity, I've studied in a convent school and they're bent on converting you. First they feed the concept of First Sin, then the whole jesus rescues thing and create insecurity within oneself.. That's almost my experience, he instead revealed me the less 'holistic' parts of their scripture.
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Prabhat · Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:05 am Post subject:

So what new. they are trying for so many year to convert people
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Mitra · Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:12 am Post subject:

I dont know who ends up corrupting who...christians become idolators ...Hindus add another deity to their pantheon...
Does anyone care about something that is absolute, unchanging and true?
These temples (Hindu/christian) are thriving markets feeding delusions, greed, pettiness .
Do people create Gods in their own image?
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Shyena · Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject:

Mitra · Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject:

Oh yes the little roadside shrines especially of Mary and Infant Jesus!! How similar they are to the temples of the various goddesses .
Yes , the Christian deities are part of Hindu Pantheon too because the Hindus , especially the lower strata who are uneducated , regard Christ as a God and Mary as a type of Amma . Our people anyway are conditioned to accept miracles as plain evidence of Godship. And given the polytheistic and all inclusive nature of Hindus they dont have any qualms accepting another new God in addition to earlier ones. I say this because people say that they had prayed to all Gods and did all vratams , then also prayed to this new God also for added effect or as a last resort. And they offer votives in the churches - in some place - I heard they offer a small golden limb for a healed limb . Shocked

Weird practices. Some churches have the annual festivals much like the village festivals dedicated to village Goddesses - and everyone participates - Hindus too.
They dont want to leave no stone unturned or as they say in Telugu - "E putta lo e paamu undo teleedu". ( who knows which serpent lurks where )

I was wondering whether the Hindus who start to accept Jesus as a God among many - will they be later on willing to renounce their old Gods by the preachings of the clergy? I dont think so - Hindus don't like to anger any God. Or maybe Jesus replaces the older Gods in their minds as a more powerful God than the previous ones.

Because the Hindu Gods have a way of waxing and waning in popularity - these days Sai Baba is the most preferred , earlier it was Santoshi Ma. You can gauge the popularity of a God depending on the number of kids named after them or the names on the signs of shops in the bazaars. There are any number of Sainath's, Sai Ram , Srisai's these days and in my childhood there were so many Santoshis - My dad used to say Santoshi is grammatically a masculine name - how can you name girls Santoshi ?
Though I have not come across any Hindu called EsuRam, or Sri Esu till now, so maybe we are not yet there . Wink

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Shishya · Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:24 am Post subject:

Namaste Mitra Ji,

All you have to do is look in the history books to find the strategies the Christians have at their disposal.

Europe, for example, was in a very similar condition when Christianity came along. Most of Europe actually converted to what was later referred to as the 'Arian Heresy' - which explicity denied the 'divinity' of Christ. The Arian Church taught that he was simply a great and wise man chosen by God to preach the truth. The old gods were seen to be either demi-gods, angels or, as time progressed, demons. Only later did Catholicism as we know it come to true power - long after people had become used to the basic concepts of the Church.

If we don't learn from history, we are bound to repeat it...
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